Rolling Stone: The Hobbit is a very thin book. Why did you decide to make it into three films?
Peter Jackson: The Hobbit is almost like an optical illusion. You look at the book, and it is a really thin book, and you could make a relatively thin film as well. What I mean by that is you could race through the story at the speed that Tolkien does-if you really study the Hobbit, you'll be surprised at some of the memorable scenes, they're so short. They're written in such a brisk pace, breathless style, with not a pause for dialogue and character, that they're very quick. That's not the type of film we'd ever want to make. We wouldn't want to make a film where we rush from action with some comedy along the way.
RS: So are you changing the story?
PJ: We want to make a film that tells a story and has a little bit more depth to it than what Tolkien was after when he wrote the book. I was surprised when I reread the book because I remembered this huge sequence in lake-town but in the book it's only two pages. In a movie, if you're literally shooting the script at that pace, you've got no room for character development. So it's a deceptive book is what I'm saying. We haven't been indulgent in the way that we've made these movies. We've simply used the narrative that Tolkien laid out. We've written it at a very brisk pace, but once we really develop these scenes from the novel as movie scenes, they tend to take up some time.
RT: But there's also a lot of stuff from outside the book, too, right?
PJ: Yes, the other thing we've done is we haven't just stuck to the pages of the Hobbit, either. We've got the rights to adapt what would be the appendices from Return of the King, about 125 pages of material. In them, Tolkien was writing about what was happening outside the pages of the Hobbit, in Middle Earth, at the exact same time. So we're doing sort of the Hobbit super-sized, with all the extra material.
RS: There's been criticism that making this children story into a three movie epic is naked commercialism. How do you respond?
PJ: No. Look, it would be nakedly commercial if the studio had come to us-the filmmakers-and said, "Why don't you turn this into three films because we can. And we can market and sell three films, blah, blah, blah." But they didn't. We approached them. We felt that we had the story we wanted to tell. We had the characters we wanted to develop. We wanted to use all this fantastic material from the appendices that we otherwise couldn't have used because of the structure of two movies and the running time. So we approached the studio and pitched the idea of why it would make sense to do it as three films. It certainly wasn't commercially driven-it was a creative choice from us.